Historique des annonces du DCS MiG-21Bis Fishbed

[WoodMan]

super sympa

[diditopgun]

Interview de Beczl sur SimHQ avec pleins de superbes screen:

http://simhq.com/_air14/air_528a.html

[_12F_Corsair]

Au moins on sait que ce sera une valeur sure, comparé aux addons un peu douteux d'IRIS

[Poliakov]

Sa promet du lourd

[diditopgun]

Some post's ago I asked about Radar IFF and cluttering possibilities. See this really short video how the IFF recognition and the ground clutter compensation channel, fixed beam is working.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJaDawh6P0c

P.S. *** The current cockpit color, instruments, etc doesn't represent the final product capabilities ***

source: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=88405&page=17

[Azrayen]

Hi, je poste ici pour ne pas polluer le topic du F-16 :

Faux, le Mig-21 aura un modèle de vol avancé, donc un AFM, Beczl la affirmé sur le forum, de plus il reçoit l'aide des devs pour sa

Tu as un lien vers cette affirmation ? Je ne l'ai pas lue, ai-je loupé qque chose ?
D'ac pour l'aide reçue (en l'occurence de Yoyo )

Extrait de l'ITW de Beczl :

Well that's a trickiest part during development in my point of view. I don't want to categorize the current planes flight model to SFM or AFM. It should be different case-by-case. The current MiG-21Bis flight model is based on the official МиГ-21БИС Техническое описание that was the bible of the flight model. This document contain all of the plane detailed flight-characteristic parameters. So the basic graphs, data's came from here. Also, Yo-Yo is performing some correction in this flight model because they have more experience with the flight model than me. Also I use the real MiG pilot notes that contain several not well documented data's about the plane capability especially at low level flight.

I think these parameters and graph implementations are the easiest parts in our case. The hardest is to represent and implement all limitation and special things that connect with the basic flight model. For example, in the previous Flaming Cliffs 2 version we had several flight model limitations and flight effect when the pilot breaks the G limitations and stressed the engine too much. In some cases the weapon launch is impossible, the drop tanks break off, the engine shuts down, and so on. So my interpretation is the MiG-21 flight model and equal to the fully implemented aerodynamic, engine, hydraulic and other system parameters, animation, failures, etc.. Plus all plane behavior that not documented or part of the general manuals.

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Az'

[Robin Hood]

Je crois que l'idée venait de ce post-là.

[speacy]

"This evening we will be focusing on analyzing and interpreting the flight modeling in DCS SFM (AFMs aren't available currently to us 3rd party developers.) so we are making do with what we have."

-Posted by Spanky. (Iris)

So if what you're saying is true Nate, how is this "AFM" "not available"? If I understand what you're saying, the Flight Models are not based on any kind of template. But in this case, Iris isn't able to even experiment with an AFM.

So it's more than just the "laws of physics" that are needed for the foundations of these FMs I'm guessing, wouldn't you agree?

And Beczl, if Spanky's statement is true, how is your FM somewhere between Su-25T and A-10C?

Different party different story. I have an access some other things that the other 3rd parties didn't have. The reason is simple the future SDK will be contain most of codes and features that we're developing now for MiG-21. So basically the FM connection now is not available yet.

Il me semble avoir lu autre chose a ce sujet mais sur le forum d'iris ou justement beczl expliquais que le Mig-21 aurais un AFM

EDIT: grillé

[jeanba]

j'achèterai DCS rien que pour cet avion

[Poliakov]

Je crois que l'idée venait de ce post-là.

EN effet

[Azrayen]

OK, merci à tous les 3, je l'avais loupé
Et je suis bien content de l'avoir lu, du coup

[diditopgun]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVh599DLYcQ

[ergo]

jolie !!!

Ca prend forme !

[WoodMan]

ЧР Черезвычайный Режим (ChR) means the engine emergency mode. The R-25 engine's specialty was the addition of a second fuel pump in the afterburning stage that provide +28kN thrust. This extreme thrust of ChR allowed to the MiG-21bis to reach a better than 1:1 thrust-to-weight ratio for dogfight and outclimb the F-16,

The general manual contain the following about ЧР (ChR) AFB usage: Officially: Max 3min. Between two Chr you need 30s cooling time. In negativ G max 3sec. Use of CSR requires engine take-out inspection upon landing and every minute of its use counts as one full hour of engine runtime on the logbook.

In other aspect: I seen a black-box(SARPP) tape with 14 minutes continous afterburner including 6 minutes discontinuous 'ChR' so 'only 3 minutes' rule for peace-time training only. Also there was a special automatic control unit for this 'ChR-mode'in the VVS '21s. In complex ACM's you do not need continously for the 'ChR', it is too much sometimes. One of the Soviet instructors told: 'ChR is best for disengage from combat.

très bon comme info sur le mig

[WoodMan]

on peut pré-commander le simu avec des tarifs plus ou moins différents

http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/150836?c=home

[Ghostrider]

Je serais curieux de savoir comment ED va "toucher" sa part ?
Surtout si la commercialisation se fait sur une plateforme externe ??

[ergo]

Un contrat sur le nombre de vente ?
Un prix déjà fixé ?

Je pense que la simple apposition du sigle "DCS" dit suffir. Et rien ne dit que DCS n'aura pas la possibilité (en plus de tout ca) de vendre le MiG21 via sa plateforme..

bref .. un beau bordel si c'est le cas !

[diditopgun]

20$ la version digital de base c'est trés correcte comme prix !

[mek]

Je serais curieux de savoir comment ED va "toucher" sa part ?
Surtout si la commercialisation se fait sur une plateforme externe ??

D'un autre coté si ED intervient (?) sur le MDV en AFM...

[diditopgun]

Beczl nous prépare quelques autres petites choses bien sympatiques:

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1 ... stcount=43

[ergo]

Rhooooo un SA-2 ....

J'espère que l'intégration dans DCS est complète ! (Pas juste un remplacement d'un autre SAM).

PS : ca sent le combined Arm tout ca ...

[MONSTERMAN]

Beczl nous prépare quelques autres petites choses bien sympatiques:

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1 ... stcount=43

Ça voudrais dire que le 21 est finit ?

[ergo]

"en finition" ... nuance !

[WoodMan]

Rhooooo un SA-2 ....

J'espère que l'intégration dans DCS est complète ! (Pas juste un remplacement d'un autre SAM).

ben là on devrait très vite le savoir

normalement le SA-2 n'est pas guidé par le radar pendant les 6 ou 7 premières secondes de monté du missile

c'est pour cette raison que les pilotes pendant le Vietnam cherchaient les fumées des missiles, et bien souvent ils le savaient avant le système d'alerte de l'avion

du coup on pourra facilement le vérifier

[ergo]

C'est typiquement a ce genre de détail que je pensais