J'avoue être un peu perplexe devant celles qui sont dans le jeu...
On trouve un HE à 42g d'explo pour 445g et un MG à 330g........ et 54g d'explo......
J'ai des sources qui me donnent 85g pour le MG..... quelqu'un peut confirmer ?
Quant à l'autre, d'après mes lectures, ce serait plutot un HE/AP/I d'après ce que j'en ai lu, mais je n'ai pas ses caractéristiques........ Butchinou, tu aurais ça pour les deux muns employées en opérations ?
MK 108 et munitions
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Pareil, 85g : http://www.luft46.com/armament/mk108.html
J'ai trouvé ça aussi, mais il faut faire le tri :
"Type 1 - 3cm brandgranate ohne zerleger (3cm incendiary shell without self destruct element), a pressed steel body with a (typical for the mineshell) round bottom. The shellbody is filled with thermite, pressed in three degrees of tightness, the less pressed amount in top. The shell is fuzed with the Az1587. After hitting the target, the shell's nose is blown off by the initial explosion of the nosefuze, after which it starts spewing fire like a roman candle, about 1200º C hot. weight of shell : 330 ± 8 grams.
Type 2 - 3cm M Geschoß 108 ausführung A mit zerleger (3cm Mineshell 108 type A with self destruct mechanism). A Mineshell filled with 85 grams of penthrite and fuzed with the ZZ1589B (Zerlegezunder / self destruct fuze 1589B, -mechanical-). The shell could also be filled with 85 grams of HA41 (Hexogen Aluminium). Weight of shell : 330± 8 grams. Note that the shell has a different type of detonator, the VC70. This duplex detonator had a delay curcuit that delayed the shell for about 10 cm of flightpath, enabeling it to enter the target before exploding inside of it.
Type 3 - 3cm M geschoß ohne zerleger (3cm Mineshell without self destruct mechanism). A mineshell filled with 82 grams of Ha41 and a ring of 3 grams penthrite ,surrounding the VC70 detonator. The fuze used is the AZ1587.
Type 4 - 3cm M geschoß leuchtspur, mit zeleger (3cm mineshell with tracer and self delay). A Mineshell with a tracer element , used one on five in a belt for fire corrections. The shell is filled with 73 grams HA41 and a core of 3 grams nitropenta. The fuze is an ZZ1589B, in fact a ZZ1589A with a smaller and more streamlinded outer body.
Type 5 - 3cm M geschoß leuchtspur, mit zeleger (3cm mineshell with tracer and self delay). A Mineshell with a tracer element , used one on five in a belt for fire corrections. The shell is filled with 73 grams HA41 and a core of 3 grams nitropenta. The fuze used on this projectile is the AZ1504, which is also used on the 2 cm Spr.Gr.
In functioning it resembles the AZ1587.
Type 6 - 3cm SprGr. L'spur o. Zerl. (Sprengranate leuchtspur ohne zeleger / 3cm High explosive shell with tracer, without self destruct). A thick walled high explosive projectile with a drilled tracer element. The shell is filled with Trotyl and has a core of 3 grams Nitropenta, packed in a cartboard tube. The fuze used on this projectile is the AZ1504, which is also used on the 2 cm Spr.Gr. In functioning it resembles the AZ1587.
Type 7 - A practice mineshell , resembling the 3cm M shell with tracer. The shell is not tarfilled to bring it to the right weight.
Type 8 - 3cm panzersprengranate leuchtspur übung ohne zerleger (3cm practice APHE shell with tracer, without self destruct). Weight of shell 500± 7 grams. Fuze dummy : 3cm Bd. zerleger erzatzstuck 1592 (3cm Basefuze replacement screw 1592).
Type 9 - 3cm Practice mineshell with unbalance . A tarfilled practice mineshell with a steel rod in the middle that is bend outward on top. This causes the shell to fall into unbalance , shortly after leaving the barrel. Effectively a short range practice shell. Weight 330± 8 grams.
Type 10 - 3cm M geschoß Üb ohne zerleger (3cm practice mineshell without self destruct device). A tar filled 3 cm mineshell, supposedly designed to receive a 20 mm shell fuze.
Type 11- 3cm M geschoß Üb ohne zerleger (3cm practice mine shell without self destruct device). A tar filled practice mineshell, supposedly threaded to receive the ZZ1589B, however only found as an practice shell.
Type 12 - 3cm M geschoß Üb ohne zerleger (3cm practice mine shell without self destruct device). A practice mineshell with a blind nose piece resembling the ZZ1589B. The filler is made from a mixture of sand and tar. This mixture is locked up by a 1,5mm thick steel plate, locked up by the nose piece.
Type 13 - 3cm sprengranate übung ohne zerleger (3cm high practice high explosice shell without self destruct). A machined steel body with a pressed steel windshield.
It must be noted that in most M shells, an aluminium ring can be observed i.w.o the driving band on the inside of the body.This ring is placed to prevent the thin walled shell body from being crushed while the drivingband is pressed into the rifling grooves of the gunbarrel."
J'ai trouvé ça aussi, mais il faut faire le tri :
"Type 1 - 3cm brandgranate ohne zerleger (3cm incendiary shell without self destruct element), a pressed steel body with a (typical for the mineshell) round bottom. The shellbody is filled with thermite, pressed in three degrees of tightness, the less pressed amount in top. The shell is fuzed with the Az1587. After hitting the target, the shell's nose is blown off by the initial explosion of the nosefuze, after which it starts spewing fire like a roman candle, about 1200º C hot. weight of shell : 330 ± 8 grams.
Type 2 - 3cm M Geschoß 108 ausführung A mit zerleger (3cm Mineshell 108 type A with self destruct mechanism). A Mineshell filled with 85 grams of penthrite and fuzed with the ZZ1589B (Zerlegezunder / self destruct fuze 1589B, -mechanical-). The shell could also be filled with 85 grams of HA41 (Hexogen Aluminium). Weight of shell : 330± 8 grams. Note that the shell has a different type of detonator, the VC70. This duplex detonator had a delay curcuit that delayed the shell for about 10 cm of flightpath, enabeling it to enter the target before exploding inside of it.
Type 3 - 3cm M geschoß ohne zerleger (3cm Mineshell without self destruct mechanism). A mineshell filled with 82 grams of Ha41 and a ring of 3 grams penthrite ,surrounding the VC70 detonator. The fuze used is the AZ1587.
Type 4 - 3cm M geschoß leuchtspur, mit zeleger (3cm mineshell with tracer and self delay). A Mineshell with a tracer element , used one on five in a belt for fire corrections. The shell is filled with 73 grams HA41 and a core of 3 grams nitropenta. The fuze is an ZZ1589B, in fact a ZZ1589A with a smaller and more streamlinded outer body.
Type 5 - 3cm M geschoß leuchtspur, mit zeleger (3cm mineshell with tracer and self delay). A Mineshell with a tracer element , used one on five in a belt for fire corrections. The shell is filled with 73 grams HA41 and a core of 3 grams nitropenta. The fuze used on this projectile is the AZ1504, which is also used on the 2 cm Spr.Gr.
In functioning it resembles the AZ1587.
Type 6 - 3cm SprGr. L'spur o. Zerl. (Sprengranate leuchtspur ohne zeleger / 3cm High explosive shell with tracer, without self destruct). A thick walled high explosive projectile with a drilled tracer element. The shell is filled with Trotyl and has a core of 3 grams Nitropenta, packed in a cartboard tube. The fuze used on this projectile is the AZ1504, which is also used on the 2 cm Spr.Gr. In functioning it resembles the AZ1587.
Type 7 - A practice mineshell , resembling the 3cm M shell with tracer. The shell is not tarfilled to bring it to the right weight.
Type 8 - 3cm panzersprengranate leuchtspur übung ohne zerleger (3cm practice APHE shell with tracer, without self destruct). Weight of shell 500± 7 grams. Fuze dummy : 3cm Bd. zerleger erzatzstuck 1592 (3cm Basefuze replacement screw 1592).
Type 9 - 3cm Practice mineshell with unbalance . A tarfilled practice mineshell with a steel rod in the middle that is bend outward on top. This causes the shell to fall into unbalance , shortly after leaving the barrel. Effectively a short range practice shell. Weight 330± 8 grams.
Type 10 - 3cm M geschoß Üb ohne zerleger (3cm practice mineshell without self destruct device). A tar filled 3 cm mineshell, supposedly designed to receive a 20 mm shell fuze.
Type 11- 3cm M geschoß Üb ohne zerleger (3cm practice mine shell without self destruct device). A tar filled practice mineshell, supposedly threaded to receive the ZZ1589B, however only found as an practice shell.
Type 12 - 3cm M geschoß Üb ohne zerleger (3cm practice mine shell without self destruct device). A practice mineshell with a blind nose piece resembling the ZZ1589B. The filler is made from a mixture of sand and tar. This mixture is locked up by a 1,5mm thick steel plate, locked up by the nose piece.
Type 13 - 3cm sprengranate übung ohne zerleger (3cm high practice high explosice shell without self destruct). A machined steel body with a pressed steel windshield.
It must be noted that in most M shells, an aluminium ring can be observed i.w.o the driving band on the inside of the body.This ring is placed to prevent the thin walled shell body from being crushed while the drivingband is pressed into the rifling grooves of the gunbarrel."
